• Daiwana
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Topic: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Hello guys,

I just tried my VoiceLive 2 with a Shure PGX24E/SM58 wireless set, and tried it out with the VL2.

I use the shortcut button to set the tempo, and the light blinks and shows the tempo i set it with the shortcut button.

When i use a regular mic non wireless everything acts normally, but with this wireless system, the shortcut button stops blinking and remain Lit (ON) every time i start singing on the mic.

It also changes the tempo and how the delay acts. i think it's going to 300BPM

Is this a bug?

I'm using 1.4.00 build 125

Thank you!

  • Daiwana
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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Just realized it changes the delay tempo, and remain lit, only when i "blast" the mic with more power. Please note that the signal doesn't clip! its just when i sing louder. soft voice (speaking), does not impact the delay tempo, or shortcut button.

  • Daiwana
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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Is there anybody out here using a wireless mic that can test this for me?

I already asked support for an answer, but i guess they dint manage to test this just yet.

  • Ir.T
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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Well, I'm afraid you're facing the same bug as the people in this thread. http://voicecouncil.com/forum/topic/305 … lay-issue/

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

I updated the other thread, but Diawana, we thought we had fixed that bug in build 1.4.02 (127). Make sure you update your firmware. Build 125 was the version that the issue was confirmed to exist.

Cheers,
Craig

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Oh, sorry. Didn't see that! Will update and check back with you guys. smile

Thank you

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Ok, so i just updated to the new firmware 1.4.02 (127), and unfortunately the problem persists... If i use a wired mic, everything acts normally, but with the wireless mic, it goes to 300BPM when i sing a little louder than spoken word, and the shortcut button (that usually mimics the tempo by blinking in the desired tempo) remain lit without blinking.

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

After reading this in the other thread, i applied the "fix" and yay! At least now i can use the Delay again! smile I hate when delays are not in sync with the band. tongue This is not a condenser mic tho. But everything acts exactly how is described in the other thread, except for the fact that i don't use a condenser mic. i actually tried to apply the -10db pad on the mic itself, but that doesn't fix it.




Hi Zedrik,
Yep it's completely related to mics using phantom power. We use the phantom signal to "ride" our mic control functions down the cable. What's happening is that when a loud signal comes into the mic with phantom on, the small voltage change is being interpreted as a button press on our MP-75 mic. The "bug" is that it's happening when Mic-Control is turned off too.
You can cheat your way around it if you set your shortcut to something that you wouldn't mind going wacko. Tom's suggestion is to set it to Choir, then turn Choir levels off in your patch. That way, if it goes nuts, it's turning on/off something with 0 as its level. It's certainly not an elegant fix, but it could let you use your condenser mic for the time being, without wrecking your performances.
Cheers,
Craig

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

That's really interesting Daiwana. Perhaps there's something inherent in wireless mics that we've overlooked. I'll poke the engineers to look at them specifically.

-Craig

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Just came across this thread. I have the same thing going on. I just don't use the shortcut button to tap the tempo all that much, so I didn't really bother.

Problem:
As stated by OP:   When shortcut button is assigned to "tempo", tempo automatically changes to 300 bpm. Tapping shortcut doesn't change tempo when stage noise is present and/or when singing. Shortcut does work when no stage noise is present and there's no singing. When a loud signal is presented to the input of the VL2 the value of tempo will change.

signal chain:
Microphone connected to mixing desk. Aux-output from mixing desk is connected to the line-input of VL2. Input gain on VL2 is normal. Other Aux-output from mixing desk is connected to Aux-input on VL2. (no vocal microphone signal is fed into Aux-in on VL2). 100% wet signal from VL2 output connected to two inputs on the mixing desk.

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Re: Wireless mic - Software BUG?

Heya,

I mentioned this in another thread, but we've discovered that the fix we thought we implemented somehow didn't make it into the firmware release. We're working to get a new version out asap.

Cheers,
Craig

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